add the letterboxes that in Canada!!!!!!
The Secret Gardeners
Langley, BRITISH COLUMBIA, CANADA :-)
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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Maybe California? Kayak Boxes
From: "geoflyfisher"
2. Re: trashy parks
From: "justplaingeorge"
3. New letterboxing database [Re: Random Acts of Letterboxing
Kindness]
From: "thelionandsanddollar"
4. New letterboxes in West Granby, CT!!
From: Melissa Vanek
5. Re: Re: trashy parks
From: Eliza B
6. Re: Maybe California? Kayak Boxes
From: "az89a"
7. New letterboxes in West Granby, CT!!
From: Melissa Vanek
8. Re: trashy parks
From: "justplaingeorge"
9. Re: Maybe California? Kayak Boxes
From: "geoflyfisher"
10. Re: Just started
From: "piglet_ct"
11. Re: MD Two new boxes
From: "dcdeb_and_kc"
12. NPS Letter Template? (was Park Service "rule")
From: "Mischief In Wa"
13. my NPS rule reaction
From: "Julie A. Towe"
14. RE: New letterboxing database [Re: Random Acts of Letterboxing
Kindness]
From: Wes Garrison
15. New letterboxing database [Re: Random Acts of Letterboxing
Kindness]
From: "splat23222"
16. Re: Re:CT RI boxes
From: Doublesaj@aol.com
17. Re: Re: Billions of Blistering Blue Barnacles, RI
From: Doublesaj@aol.com
18. Re: Re: Billions of Blistering Blue Barnacles, RI
From: Doublesaj@aol.com
19. Nantucket LBs
From: Doublesaj@aol.com
20. CT, MA & RI letterboxes
From: Doublesaj@aol.com
21. RE: CT, MA & RI letterboxes
From: "IrishTinker"
22. The NPS Letter
From: "lizardbuttsfamily"
23. RE: New letterboxing database [Re: Random Acts of Letterboxing
Kindness]
From: "HangGlider"
24. RE: New letterboxing database [Re: Random Acts of Letterboxing
Kindness]
From: "HangGlider"
25. New letterboxing database [Re: Random Acts of Letterboxing
Kindness]
From: "lizardbuttsfamily"
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 12:20:35 -0000
From: "geoflyfisher"
Subject: Maybe California? Kayak Boxes
Good morning,
Months ago, I belive I read clues to a couple California boxes that I
would like to be pointed to again.
It seems like one had to have a book, perhaps a novel, to get
important details of the clues, and then the boxes were on coastal
islands which were best reached by kayak.
OK.. that is the sum of my memory on this.
I have a email pen pal in San Diego who is big into sea kayaking. If
the boxes happen to be near there, I would love to send him the
clues.
Flyfisher
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 12:27:57 -0000
From: "justplaingeorge"
Subject: Re: trashy parks
We've found quite a lot of litter out there as well. Normally we
bring a trashbag with us and clean up as we go along the letterboxing
route. Then just throw it away on our way out of the park.
Shell
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 13:05:19 -0000
From: "thelionandsanddollar"
Subject: New letterboxing database [Re: Random Acts of Letterboxing
Kindness]
I liked very much what I saw when I looked through your web-site. It
still mystifies how people can work with these things. I have two
small questions, and if there redundant I'm sorry. Are you going to
add an area for "mystery boxes" and "hitchhikers"?
It's an execlent site, thanks again.
Patrick
--- In letterbox-usa@y..., Wes Garrison
>
> Well, first let me say this: I am a nerd.
>
> Now that you know that, it will make sense to you when I say that I
was
> bored the other day, so I decided to write a letterboxing database
website.
>
> I would love it if people want to try it out and let me know what
they think
> about it.
>
> Here's the low-down:
> - Anyone can search and view letterboxes. Right now, letterboxes
are listed
> by state. However, as more boxes are entered, search methods will
grow.
>
> - To add a letterbox, you must create a login. Use your email
address and a
> password. All this does is identify you so that no one else can
mess with
> your boxes. You'll have to confirm your email address, but it's
easy to do!
>
> - Once you've added a box to the database, you'll be able to see
it, and be
> able to make changes to it. If you go to visit your box and it
doesn't
> exist, you can modify your clues to say that it's gone.
>
> That's it, really. You can post, edit, and view your letterboxes.
>
> If you get an error, I'd love to hear about it, too! Copy the URL
from the
> address bar and any error text and send it to me, PLEASE! If I get
bored
> again, I'm going to add some automatic error reporting, maybe.
>
> Now that you've read this far, head on over to:
> http://www.wesgarrison.us
>
> Praises and flames both appreciated, but please don't clutter up
the list
> with comments that everyone wouldn't want to read.
>
> Wes
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 06:24:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Melissa Vanek
Subject: New letterboxes in West Granby, CT!!
If you are looking to do some letterboxing, we are
releasing the clues on October 5th for two new
letterboxes at Holcomb Farm in West Granby, CT. The
Unlucky Clucky letterbox is already listed and resides
on the farm.
October 5th(raindate 6th) is our Fall Festival here at
the farm. It costs $4 per car to park and enjoy the
fall festivities such as pumpkin painting, hayrides,
baked goods, music, guided hikes, and much more!
Come on down to the farm and do some letterboxing with
us!
After the 5th, the clues will be posted to the
letterboxing website. Holcomb Farm and the trails are
free and open to the public with 322 acres.
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 06:30:58 -0700
From: Eliza B
Subject: Re: Re: trashy parks
At 12:27 PM 9/27/02 +0000, you wrote:
>We've found quite a lot of litter out there as well. Normally we bring
>a trashbag with us and clean up as we go along the letterboxing route.
>Then just throw it away on our way out of the park.
With as much trash as I've seen out there, it'll be a cinch getting to
any
letterbox that this has happened with.....just follow the clean spots
right
to the box....
Sad, really.
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 13:31:52 -0000
From: "az89a"
Subject: Re: Maybe California? Kayak Boxes
Unfortunately, the NPS confiscated those boxes.
Your sea kayaking buddy would still love it there. Countless sea
caves & uninhabited coves to explore.
Ron
--- In letterbox-usa@y..., "geoflyfisher"
> Good morning,
>
> Months ago, I belive I read clues to a couple California boxes that
I
> would like to be pointed to again.
>
> It seems like one had to have a book, perhaps a novel, to get
> important details of the clues, and then the boxes were on coastal
> islands which were best reached by kayak.
>
> OK.. that is the sum of my memory on this.
>
> I have a email pen pal in San Diego who is big into sea kayaking.
If
> the boxes happen to be near there, I would love to send him the
> clues.
>
> Flyfisher
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 06:26:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Melissa Vanek
Subject: New letterboxes in West Granby, CT!!
If you are looking to do some letterboxing, we are
releasing the clues on October 5th for two new
letterboxes at Holcomb Farm in West Granby, CT. The
Unlucky Clucky letterbox is already listed and resides
on the farm.
October 5th(raindate 6th) is our Fall Festival here at
the farm. It costs $4 per car to park and enjoy the
fall festivities such as pumpkin painting, hayrides,
baked goods, music, guided hikes, and much more!
Come on down to the farm and do some letterboxing with
us!
After the 5th, the clues will be posted to the
letterboxing website. Holcomb Farm and the trails are
free and open to the public with 322 acres.
Check out our website for details and directions.
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New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo!
http://sbc.yahoo.com
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 13:34:14 -0000
From: "justplaingeorge"
Subject: Re: trashy parks
> With as much trash as I've seen out there, it'll be a cinch getting
to any letterbox that this has happened with.....just follow the
clean spots right to the box....
That's terrible! : ( Are most of the parks like that or just a few?
Thankfully we haven't come across one near as bad as that - just the
odd litter here and there.
Shell
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 14:42:17 -0000
From: "geoflyfisher"
Subject: Re: Maybe California? Kayak Boxes
Sorry about the boxes. Thanks for the information.
--- In letterbox-usa@y..., "az89a"
> Unfortunately, the NPS confiscated those boxes.
> Your sea kayaking buddy would still love it there. Countless sea
> caves & uninhabited coves to explore.
> Ron
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 15:34:20 -0000
From: "piglet_ct"
Subject: Re: Just started
Do I count I work at a college?
--- In letterbox-usa@y..., "Jared"
> WEll I just started letterboxing today, and it was pretty fun,
> already found four near my house. My question is, is there any
> college aged folks like me doing this?
>
>
> -Jared
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 15:50:11 -0000
From: "dcdeb_and_kc"
Subject: Re: MD Two new boxes
Hi
The place that you start from is along Colesville Rd, as you go
North on Colesville it is after Crestmoor Dr and before Lockwood
Dr.
Let us know how the clues work out. DCDEB
--- In letterbox-usa@y..., bastiality@a... wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I live right around the Colesville Road area where you have
placed new
> letterboxes. I'd love to go and search for them tomorrow, but
I'm having a
> little trouble realizing exactly which colonial buildings you are
referring
> to. Do you mean the one across the street from the strip of
offices, about a
> mile south of New Hampshire Avenue?
>
> Any help is appreciated. Thank you.
>
> Di
> The Usual Suspects
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 16:30:21 +0000
From: "Mischief In Wa"
Subject: NPS Letter Template? (was Park Service "rule")
Would somone (who's good at this sort of thing) be willing to share a
copy
of a 'general letter of consern' over the NPS policy on letterboxes?
I'd like to add my "voice", but I'm afraid I'm not very good at putting
it
on paper.
Thanks,
~ Mischief ~
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 13:35:01 -0400
From: "Julie A. Towe"
Subject: my NPS rule reaction
Hi, guys. I don't post much to the group in terms of comments. I
usually just submit clues to boxes I have hidden....some of which are
probably on National Park property...can't say for sure because I never
knew there would be a problem with it. I've hidden quite a few along
Blue Ridge Parkway, and a lot of those are probably on NP land. I am
deeply saddened by the issues the NPS have taken with letterboxing. The
entire concept of hiding letterboxes on Blue Ridge Parkway was born of a
great sentimental notion. Someone "rehiding" these boxes would only
serve to void the sentimentality the box held when planted in the first
place.
I have always tried to "play by the rules", but I have also never cared
much for useless rules that only serve to stifle someone else's
enjoyment. I agree with the person who says that the only reason
letterboxing is deemed a "threat" or "inappropriate" is because it isn't
understood. Letterboxing seems to appeal to only a minority of people,
which serves the sport well. But, in this instance it puts us against
the wall. The NPS is a lot bigger than we are and can make outrageous
claims that the general public would swallow whole. Only the few
individuals who letterbox would know the absurdity of their accusations.
I would hope that these statements are made as a safety net incase
"something happens"...the NPS could say "we made every effort to prevent
such atrocities by explaining our objections to letterboxers and
removing every known box". (seems ridiculous...) But, maybe it was
simply said to pacify some loudmouth, and now that it has been said it
will be laid to rest. Or...I'm just wishful thinking.
Should I remove my Blue Ridge Parkway boxes, or simply let them be
confiscated and die an honorable death? :(
You can email me personally at letterbox@quietplace.ws
-Julie
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 12:47:11 -0500
From: Wes Garrison
Subject: RE: New letterboxing database [Re: Random Acts of Letterboxing
Kindness]
Well, I've had a couple of comments that people may not want to see the
date that a box was last visited. Personally, if I were to see that a
box hadn't been verified in a year or so, I'd probably email the owner
to see if they knew it still existed. That way, I don't tear up a bunch
of ground looking for something that doesn't exist.
If you have input on what you think, I'd like to hear it.
Wes
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From: SpringChick [mailto:springchick1219@attbi.com]
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 4:49 AM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LbNA] New letterboxing database [Re: Random Acts of
Letterboxing Kindness]
--- In letterbox-usa@y..., "HangGlider"
> Wes,
>
> 3) You might want to make the viewing of the status info a user-
selectable
> option. Some people don't want to know the status of a box.
Just curious (and it's early in the morning, so perhaps this would be
more obvious in daylight)... why would somebody not want to know the
status of a box?
Deb (SpringChick)
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 18:00:26 -0000
From: "splat23222"
Subject: New letterboxing database [Re: Random Acts of Letterboxing
Kindness]
Hey Wes -
I will send you a excel file with the states and counties. Let me
know if you want more details. For the database could we enter
the 'Date Placed' - that way I can load historical letterboxes with
the correct date placed.
Itchy Butt Girls
--- In letterbox-usa@y..., Wes Garrison
>
> garrison@p...
> wes@w...
> wes@e...
>
> Any are valid.
>
> I was trying to figure the best way to get state and county data.
I was
> going to head to census.gov and look for a list there, but I hadn't
yet.
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Mystery boxes: Good point. I have support for mystery boxes on my
list, but
> haven't implemented yet.
>
> Status: I have been playing around with the user configuration
stuff. Is
> there anything else that you can think of that would be cool if you
could
> configure it? Show status info was the only one I had. Actually,
there's
> no way to update the verified date yet, so I might not show it
right yet.
> Any ideas?
>
> If I can ask, what's your real name? And do you actually hang
glide?
>
> Wes
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HangGlider [mailto:hangglider@e...]
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:27 PM
> To: letterbox-usa@y...
> Subject: Re: [LbNA] New letterboxing database [Re: Random Acts of
> Letterboxing Kindness]
>
>
> Wes,
>
> I'd like to contact you off-list, and I can probably guess your e-
> address, but it'd be easier if you had it on your web page ! :-)
>
> Here's a little feedback based on some things I thought about while
building
> my version of the database:
>
> 1) You'll probably want to be able to search by state, and by state
and
> county. That means you'll need a database of county names so that
there is
> input consistency. When we make contact I can ship you that
database.
>
> 2) You'll probably want a State named "Mystery" and a county within
each
> state named "Mystery" for the, guess what, mystery boxes! ;-)
>
> 3) You might want to make the viewing of the status info a user-
selectable
> option. Some people don't want to know the status of a box.
>
> Hope these are helpful suggestions. Again, nice job on the page!
>
> Best regards,
>
> HangGlider
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wes Garrison"
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 2:15 PM
> Subject: RE: [LbNA] New letterboxing database [Re: Random Acts of
> Letterboxing Kindness]
>
>
> >
> > If you have your clues in a database already, I'd be happy to
integrate
> them
> > databas-ically (?!) so you don't have to type them in.
> >
> > Contact me off-list for details.
> >
> > Wes
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 14:15:36 EDT
From: Doublesaj@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re:CT RI boxes
Laurette:
Just returned from our 8 days on the east coast. Only had so much time
but
went looking for 14 letterboxes and ended up with 9 which I'm happy with
(NONE of the ones on Nantucket were there. . .bummer as I biked 25+
miles for
them!!)
Billions of Blistering. . . .was great although when we were there
(Sept. 25)
it was more like Billions of Fiesty Mosquitoes!! Also got Pt. Judith (my
favorite stamp so far) May Basket, A Trip Through Town, Old Mansfield
Cemetary and KJ's Best, where my husband finally jumped on the bandwagon
and
bought himself a stamp to enjoy the hunting even more with me. Pete and
Wanda
seemed to be one step ahead of us the whole time!! Fun.
Wish we hadn't had a plane to catch as I would have loved to take
advantage
of the Mecca that Mansfield/Coventry is!! Next trip!
~~Doublesaj~~
Davis, Calif
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 14:17:36 EDT
From: Doublesaj@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: Billions of Blistering Blue Barnacles, RI
Pete and Wanda:
Just returned from our 8 days on the east coast. Only had so much time
but
went looking for 14 letterboxes and ended up with 9 which I'm happy with
(NONE of the ones on Nantucket were there. . .bummer as I biked 25+
miles for
them!!)
Billions of Blistering. . . .was great although when we were there
(Sept. 25)
it was more like Billions of Fiesty Mosquitoes!! Also got Pt. Judith (my
favorite stamp so far) May Basket, A Trip Through Town, Old Mansfield
Cemetery and KJ's Best, where my husband finally jumped on the bandwagon
and
bought himself a stamp to enjoy the hunting even more with me. Seems you
2
where one step ahead of us the whole time!! Fun.
Wish we hadn't had a plane to catch as I would have loved to take
advantage
of the Mecca that Mansfield/Coventry is!! Next trip!
~~Doublesaj~~
Davis, Calif
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 14:19:13 EDT
From: Doublesaj@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: Billions of Blistering Blue Barnacles, RI
Just returned from our 8 days on the east coast. Only had so much time
but
went looking for 14 letterboxes and ended up with 9 which I'm happy with
(NONE of the ones on Nantucket were there. . .bummer as I biked 25+
miles for
them!!)
Billions of Blistering. . . .was great although when we were there
(Sept. 25)
it was more like Billions of Fiesty Mosquitoes!! Also got Pt. Judith (my
favorite stamp so far) May Basket, A Trip Through Town, Old Mansfield
Cemetery and KJ's Best, where my husband finally jumped on the bandwagon
and
bought himself a stamp to enjoy the hunting even more with me.
Wish we hadn't had a plane to catch as I would have loved to take
advantage
of the Mecca that Mansfield/Coventry is!! Next trip!
~~Doublesaj~~
Davis, Calif
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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 14:39:41 EDT
From: Doublesaj@aol.com
Subject: Nantucket LBs
Made my 16th trip to Nantucket last week with something new to do-- Took
a
Mt. bike out to find letterboxes!! Total BUMMER though. . .looked for 4
and
found ZERO! Brandt Point, Sankety, Altar Rock and the Abiah Folger rock
boxes
were not to be seen. Except for the last locale, these sites are WAY too
public and visited by high schoolers out for fun so the chance of them
surviving was nil. I knew this before I started out but went anyway.
The good news is, my husband and I continued our trip through MA, RI, CT
and
NJ and were able to find 9 of the 10 we looked for, the 10th probably
lost to
recent road work we think. I made a convert out of my husband and at KJs
Best
in Coventry (what a Mecca for letterboxing!! Wish we'd had more time!)
he
bought his own stamp there (Grizzly Bear for the CAL bears UC Calif) and
stamped along with me!
Hope to someday get back to this area for a few dozen more! Meanwhile,
we'll
be planting some new ones in Northern California.
Doublesaj and Old Blue
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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 14:49:18 EDT
From: Doublesaj@aol.com
Subject: CT, MA & RI letterboxes
What a fun couple of days we had! Made a convert out of my husband who
bought
himself his own stamp at KJs Best in Mansfield, CT.
We found
Old Landing, Marion Mass,
Dunseith Gardens, Mattapoisett, Ma, (had Nick's Pizza too!)
Fort Adams, RI, Pt. Judith, RI (best stamp yet!!)
Billions of Blistering Blue Barnicles (should be renamed Billions of
Feisty
Mosquitoes!!)
May Basket and
A Trip Through Town in Coventry CT (couldn't find #1 of this series
maybe
due to recent roadwork)
KJs Best and
Old Mansfield Cemetary.
Thanks to all of you who made for a wonderful, albeit wet, couple of
afternoons!!
Doublesaj and Old Blue
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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 15:12:11 -0400
From: "IrishTinker"
Subject: RE: CT, MA & RI letterboxes
I checked on Box 1 in Coventry (the missing one noted) on Wednesday the
25
(around 1pm) and it was definitely there at that time. When were you
there?
I will double check on it over the weekend. Glad you had a great trip!!
I
haven't been to Point Judith but can't wait to get it especially now
that I
hear your praise!!!!!
Irishtinker
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From: Doublesaj@aol.com [mailto:Doublesaj@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 2:49 PM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LbNA] CT, MA & RI letterboxes
What a fun couple of days we had! Made a convert out of my husband who
bought himself his own stamp at KJs Best in Mansfield, CT.
We found
Old Landing, Marion Mass,
Dunseith Gardens, Mattapoisett, Ma, (had Nick's Pizza too!)
Fort Adams, RI, Pt. Judith, RI (best stamp yet!!)
Billions of Blistering Blue Barnicles (should be renamed Billions of
Feisty Mosquitoes!!)
May Basket and
A Trip Through Town in Coventry CT (couldn't find #1 of this series
maybe
due to recent roadwork)
KJs Best and
Old Mansfield Cemetary.
Thanks to all of you who made for a wonderful, albeit wet, couple of
afternoons!!
Doublesaj and Old Blue
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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 19:40:04 -0000
From: "lizardbuttsfamily"
Subject: The NPS Letter
I spoke with Dwight Dixon, the ranger from the C&O canal who wrote
the letter, today. Real nice and understanding dude.
Yes! I did it the old fashion way, I called the gentleman up on the
telephone.
He stated that he recently learned about letterboxing, and that he
thinks that it is a very interesting sport and can understand the
interest and fun in the sport. He did state that he is familiar with
geocaching and that he has removed numerous boxes from that sport.
He stated at present time it is not illegal to hide boxes in the NP.
BUT in the future it may. At present the NPS is looking into revising
their CFR 36 report, so that geocaching and letterboxing will be
illegal. And mostly do to the fact that geocaching has been the
greatest problem for the park service.
He did comment that at present it is up to the park superintendent of
a region to decide which park may have harsher public use limitations
than other parks.
AND this all has to do with:
1. Enviromental issues
For example protecting rare plants. You may plant a box at a time
that the plant is hidden under the ground and later when it is above
ground, someone else who is so excited about finding a box tramples
and kills the plant.
2.Preserving historical sites.
For example, gate locks, hidden indian burial sites, hidden civil
war campsites. He stated that the NPS does not let the public know
the location of these sites in fear of vandals. And that they would
not like them to be damaged because of people looking in that area
for a box.
3.The welfare of the hiker/letterboxer/geocacher.
He stated that this year there had been three people who had been
bitten by snakes in the park.
Last year a geocacher while reaching into a hole was bitten by a bat.
ANd then there have been boxes hidden up high on cliffs.
We then dicussed his comment about boxes being perceived as bombs. He
stated that each week someone calls the office informing the rangers
of a suspicious looking box. And that they must go out, do their job
and remove the box.
He did state that if any letterboxer wishes to hide a box that you
CAN, but you must FIRST ask permission, get a permit and be shown
where it would be o.k. to plant the box.
This all sound fair to me. I think the man is just doing his job. And
the park service is trying to protect the park so that everyone can
enjoy.
As someone pointed out the other day there are other places to plant
boxes.
Monica(the hiker)
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Message: 23
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 12:48:24 -0700
From: "HangGlider"
Subject: RE: New letterboxing database [Re: Random Acts of Letterboxing
Kindness]
Hi again Wes,
You might also want to allow different countries - especially the North
American, Central American, and Carribean ones. :-)
-HangGlider
On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 22:58:21 -0500 Wes Garrison
wrote:
>
> garrison@phys.ksu.edu
> wes@wesgarrison.us
> wes@envisageconsulting.org
>
> Any are valid.
>
> I was trying to figure the best way to get
> state and county data. I was
> going to head to census.gov and look for a list
> there, but I hadn't yet.
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Mystery boxes: Good point. I have support for
> mystery boxes on my list, but
> haven't implemented yet.
>
> Status: I have been playing around with the
> user configuration stuff. Is
> there anything else that you can think of that
> would be cool if you could
> configure it? Show status info was the only
> one I had. Actually, there's
> no way to update the verified date yet, so I
> might not show it right yet.
> Any ideas?
>
> If I can ask, what's your real name? And do
> you actually hang glide?
>
> Wes
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HangGlider
> [mailto:hangglider@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:27 PM
> To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [LbNA] New letterboxing database
> [Re: Random Acts of
> Letterboxing Kindness]
>
>
> Wes,
>
> I'd like to contact you off-list, and I can
> probably guess your e-mail
> address, but it'd be easier if you had it on
> your web page ! :-)
>
> Here's a little feedback based on some things I
> thought about while building
> my version of the database:
>
> 1) You'll probably want to be able to search by
> state, and by state and
> county. That means you'll need a database of
> county names so that there is
> input consistency. When we make contact I can
> ship you that database.
>
> 2) You'll probably want a State named "Mystery"
> and a county within each
> state named "Mystery" for the, guess what,
> mystery boxes! ;-)
>
> 3) You might want to make the viewing of the
> status info a user-selectable
> option. Some people don't want to know the
> status of a box.
>
> Hope these are helpful suggestions. Again,
> nice job on the page!
>
> Best regards,
>
> HangGlider
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To:
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 2:15 PM
> Subject: RE: [LbNA] New letterboxing database
> [Re: Random Acts of
> Letterboxing Kindness]
>
>
> >
> > If you have your clues in a database already,
> I'd be happy to integrate
> them
> > databas-ically (?!) so you don't have to type
> them in.
> >
> > Contact me off-list for details.
> >
> > Wes
> >
> >
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Message: 24
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 12:50:23 -0700
From: "HangGlider"
Subject: RE: New letterboxing database [Re: Random Acts of Letterboxing
Kindness]
I was going to handle box status with a red, yellow, or green ball.
That way
people can tell if the box is still in place and verified (green), still
in
place but unverified (yellow) or unknown (red). You can avoid the whole
date
business that way.
On Fri, 27 Sep 2002 12:47:11 -0500 Wes Garrison
wrote:
>
> Well, I've had a couple of comments that people
> may not want to see the
> date that a box was last visited. Personally,
> if I were to see that a
> box hadn't been verified in a year or so, I'd
> probably email the owner
> to see if they knew it still existed. That
> way, I don't tear up a bunch
> of ground looking for something that doesn't
> exist.
>
> If you have input on what you think, I'd like
> to hear it.
>
> Wes
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SpringChick
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> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 4:49 AM
> To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [LbNA] New letterboxing database [Re:
> Random Acts of
> Letterboxing Kindness]
>
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@y..., "HangGlider" wrote:
> > Wes,
> >
> > 3) You might want to make the viewing of the
> status info a user-
> selectable
> > option. Some people don't want to know the
> status of a box.
>
>
> Just curious (and it's early in the morning, so
> perhaps this would be
> more obvious in daylight)... why would
> somebody not want to know the
> status of a box?
>
> Deb (SpringChick)
>
>
>
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Message: 25
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 20:00:03 -0000
From: "lizardbuttsfamily"
Subject: New letterboxing database [Re: Random Acts of Letterboxing
Kindness]
Well said. Thank you! I like your idea and the website so far.
Monica (the hiker)
Wes Garrison
>
> Well, I've had a couple of comments that people may not want to see
the
> date that a box was last visited. Personally, if I were to see
that a
> box hadn't been verified in a year or so, I'd probably email the
owner
> to see if they knew it still existed. That way, I don't tear up a
bunch
> of ground looking for something that doesn't exist.
>
> If you have input on what you think, I'd like to hear it.
>
> Wes
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SpringChick [mailto:springchick1219@a...]
> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 4:49 AM
> To: letterbox-usa@y...
> Subject: [LbNA] New letterboxing database [Re: Random Acts of
> Letterboxing Kindness]
>
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@y..., "HangGlider"
> > Wes,
> >
> > 3) You might want to make the viewing of the status info a user-
> selectable
> > option. Some people don't want to know the status of a box.
>
>
> Just curious (and it's early in the morning, so perhaps this would
be
> more obvious in daylight)... why would somebody not want to know
the
> status of a box?
>
> Deb (SpringChick)
>
>
>
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